Kimato
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Post by Kimato on Mar 14, 2005 7:23:04 GMT -5
I would read King, if it weren't for the extremely disturbing material he writes. If it wasn't disturbing, it wouldn't be Stephen King, my friend. So in other words, you wouldn't read King at all. -Kimato-
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Post by Hanson Crawford on Mar 14, 2005 22:31:03 GMT -5
Well, the thing about King is that his stuff is just very realistic. You think his stuff is disturbing, it is. I couldn't eat meat for a week after reading 'WasteLands'. Life is disturbing. I mean, do you really think Harry Potter would happen like that in real life? Of course not! At the very least, the students would be having sex in their dormitories. And don't get me started on Tolkein. I mean, the guy makes up a language, then makes a book to use it. The logical thing would be to write a short book where it's used fluently. Instead, he writes a really, really long book and uses it like, twice. King is just a great caputer of a human beings at their worst. I figure everyone here can respect that, since that's what we're trying to do as well.
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Kimato
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Post by Kimato on Mar 15, 2005 16:15:08 GMT -5
Actually, Tolkein had been making up languages since he was a child, and he invented the Elvish language in conjunction with his books about Middle Earth. The previous forms had been only tinkering, and were really nothing like the finished work (which is, by the way, the most beautiful language in the world...it should replace ugly languages like English, it really should...beats the h*ll out of Al Bhed, too ;D). Sorry this is so off-topic, but I just wanted to set that little misunderstanding about Tolkein straight.
As for King's books being disturbing because they are so realistic...someone has never read The Shining, or It, or Dreamcatcher, or, indeed, very many of King's works at all. Certainly, the endings aren't always peachy-keen and happy, but that is not to say that the books are realistic. Realistically, an evil clown probably never lived under a town called Derry. Realistically, aliens probably never came to earth to try and infect the entire populace with a mind-altering virus... -Kimato-
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Post by Thanatos on Mar 15, 2005 20:05:47 GMT -5
Perhaps in speaking of realism Hanson Crawford did not so much refer as to the actual situations presented in Stephen King's books but rather how the human characters involved handled them. From the paltry amount I have heard or watched of King's works, this seems true; are novels not many times more striking if their characters are truly mortal and react as one might expect to a variety of situations?
A realistic portrayal of human beings (or at least the human soul, in my case...) is precisely what we are trying to do here. More than anything else, we must remember that our ultimate purpose in this website is to tell a decidedly flawed story of mortals that set out to save the world, and hopefully overcame their own flaws and inherent weaknesses along the way.
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Post by Hanson Crawford on Mar 16, 2005 21:35:00 GMT -5
Yes, I was speaking of King's character's when I spoke of realism. But also to his plot's in a 'what if....' manner. If aliens invaded the earth in an attempt to take control of humans, how do you think they'd enter the body? Only a few options. The mouth, or the other end. Being as entering through the mouth might damage a few vital veins as well as vocals, you see that the only choice remaining is the one King chose.
As in with realism, you can't believe many of those other series's could ever really end the way they did if they really happened. Harry Potter, as I said is the main example. Lord of the Rings is another. Now, if 'Salem's Lot were to really happen, I bet it would happen exactly as King wrote it.
And Kimato, it was an evil spider thing that fed on peoples fears. Please, get your facts straight before you attempt kriticking someone.
And no, Tolkein did create The Lord of the Rongs series and the Hobbit just to exploit his 'precious' elvish. You think I'm kidding, believe me, I'd rather I were kidding, but I speak truth. And I'm sorry, but even the fact you supposed elvish take the place of ANY language (even as a joke) very seriously and have lost some respect for you. Just thought you ought to know.
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Post by Kimato on Mar 16, 2005 21:59:28 GMT -5
Hanson, I am sorry, but you are wrong. I...being somewhat of a fanatic thanks to an old friend of yours...have thoroughly researched the stories behind Tolkein's beautiful invention we call Elvish (which is actually the incorrect common name, but I will leave that to rest). I think, speaking from the point of view of someone that earnestly read through dozens of various sources trying to learn about Tolkein's inspiration for Sindarin and his books, I know what I am talking about. The times of creation for LOTR and the "elvish" language coincide.
On a completely different subject, it is spelled "critiquing", and I apologize. You are right. It was an evil spider that fed off of people's fears and went around in many forms, the most prevalent of these being an evil clown (that spawned an entire generation of caulrophobics) and "dead lights".
Sindarin/Quenya ("elvish" for the pundits) is a very pretty language, and it is much easier to express oneself using elvish, as it is a much more poetic language. No I am not actually suggesting that we all convert to "elvish", but I do suggest that you keep your "loss of respect" to yourself. I have little patience with fools and their games, and a loss of your respect because of a personal opinion I harbor can hardly hurt me, as it only reveals your own shallow close-mindedness.
I apologize to the admins for the deviation from the topic.
So has anyone here read "The Blue Sword" or "The Hero and The Crown" by Robin McKinley? BEAUTIFUL!!! -Kimato-
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Post by Warden on Apr 8, 2005 11:41:32 GMT -5
my favorite author would have to be..... Anne Rice. I have always enjoyed her books. my favorite one is The Vampire Lestat. Always a good read.
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Post by Hanzo on May 7, 2005 20:53:23 GMT -5
I guess my favorite author, would have to be Jack London. White Fang, and The Call of the Wild, these are stories that show a relationship between man and nature. Also they show the hardships people faced in frontire times.
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